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Title: Avernum 3: Ruined World
Genre: Adventure, Indie, RPG, Strategy
Developer:
Spiderweb Software
Publisher:
Spiderweb Software
Release Date: 31 Jan, 2018
Minimum:
English
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Muted graphics make for hard-to-read environments while the gameplay goes on in a plodding pace compared to the original. Tweaked statistics for skills and combat are more sophisticated and complex than they used to be and are easy to figure out which at least is nice.
tldr; If you're playing for the first time, might as well play this one. If you're a veteran, stick with the og.
(oh how the heck do you not add mouse-scroll support after 16 years). RNG matters way too much. First hour or two is spent retrying battles because you miss most of your attacks.. Seemingly endless hours of fun! Great throwback to the 90s, which I suppose was itself a throwback to D&D in the 70s. Interesting big story line with countless small stories to learn about along the way. Thanks Jeff!. Very solid game as all Spiderweb games. Huge world, dozens of quests, loot, what else could we have dreamed about? :)
Waiting for a completely new series of games from Jeff.. I've only had a chance to play a short amount so far (about an hour or so) but this is exactly what I was hoping for. The maps are nearly identical from what I can tell from Exile.
If you're looking for nostalgia factor, this game will give it to you.
Buy this game!. This was a great game, and a nice swan song for whatever game engine Jeff's been using for his games for quite some time. To be honest, I don't need a newer game engine, but as there's always a group of "get w/ the times" RPG'ers out there, I guess he decided to try something new for the future. I have played the original 6 Avernum games, and now the 3 first remakes including this one, and they definitely just get better. So I'm sad we don't appear to have 4-6 on the horizon for remakes.
More to the point of a review, if you like a big, mostly-sandbox type turn-based RPG, this will scratch an itch or two. There's different difficulty settings for those who care for that (I've done both Normal and Hard for this long game). Some really nice gear if you're patient (and even the ability to upgrade artifacts, which is awesome), a huge variety of enemies and optional encounters, and a steady feeling of accomplishment as you tame the world. Some humor mixed in w/ the grim story, and challenges a-plenty. I would recommend checking in on the Spiderweb Software forums for those who want to optimize (min-max and that kind of thing) their builds and learn many of the secrets you could easily miss in a 1st playthrough.. Fantastic old-school RPG. If you enjoyed the other recent Avernum games from Spiderweb Software, then you'll doubtless enjoy this too.
Some particular new things I've noticed in this one (as of playtime ~5 hrs):
-Improved musical score (note to new players: music only plays in main-menu and opening cut scene).
-UI has gotten a nice aesthetic overhaul (functionally it's the same as Avernum 1 & 2).
-Animated cut scene setting up the story! This was a welcome touch.
I spent 110 hours on Avernum 2 (just finished it a couple weeks ago); I suspect I will do the same with this one.
Final note: you can play spiderweb's games entirely with one hand, leaving the other free to each cheetos/pet the cat/whatever.. Another great classic style RPG from Spiderweb. Started playing their games in the 1990s and still enjoy each new (re-)release of their titles.. This is the one Spiderweb game that I have not completed, and do not like. I have played all of the Geneforge series, all of the original Avernum games, except 1-3, and all of the Avadon games. I have played all the Avernum remakes, and then I played this. I do not like this game, it is the single outlier on the graph, the only one I have given a negative review.
Spiderweb games have three main things that draw me to them: Great combat, fantastic worlds to explore, and amazing story lines and characters. This game either lacks one of these things, or destroys them. Let me elaborate on these three points.
Maybe I am just bad at the game, and that is why I don't enjoy it? Some people will claim that. But I don't think so. I played through all the other games and beat them, though not without some difficulty of course. The fighting in this game just seems to rub me the wrong way. The combat difficulty is heavily increased, the hardest (in my opinion) out of all the other games. I have tried several different builds, and even the ones recommended on the forums in case I was doing something wrong, but nothing was changing for me. It is actually kind of crazy how difficult this game is, as soon as you leave the starting area you can be totally destroyed, even on the easiest difficulty. I actually had to lower it to the very easiest, and still wasn't having any fun. When the combat in this game isn't any fun, that is half of the game that no longer appeals to me.
As for the second and third points. The world changes and is literally destroyed the more time you take, until eventually entire towns and quest-lines are just gone. I like to take my time in these games, find all the secrets, and explore everything. I don't want to be rushed through the whole game, a clock constantly ticking in my ear, counting down until the next area of the game is ruined. The timer literally destroys the characters, settings, and quests that make these games so great, if you take too long exploring the fantastic world that you want, and are encouraged, to explore. It is a strange dichotomy, a balancing act that I just can't seem to get the hang of. It just isn't fun. There goes the rest of what makes these games appealing to me.
I honestly love all of the Spiderweb games, each and every one had given me dozens, some even hundreds, of hours of fun that other games just cannot seem to replicate; but Avernum 3 commits the cardinal sin of gaming for me, not being fun. I bought it full price when it came out because I was so excited to play it, since then I have picked it up, and put it down again, over and over. I just don't like it, and I have to give it a negative review.. I only recommend this game if you liked the first one so much you needed another 100 hours of it at a quarter of the quality. It's essentially the same game with a lot of the positives augmented in such a way that it feels burdensome.
Negatives based on getting 2/3 of the endings in the first game (No Spoilers):
- There's almost no story. You're sent out to explore and the overall goal is vague and has no sense of urgency.
- Money is plentiful which destroys any strategy related to resource management
- The Map is too big - which would be fine if there was better ways to travel and the towns were more unique.
- Dialog is often re-used and the conversation choices of what to ask NPCs feel like they never went past a first draft
- Nature Lore is a dumb mechanic and so are many of the skills which are never entirely explained.
- "Dispel Barrier" is incredibly frustrating - by the time I got the spell to open these "doors" I had made notes of about 20-25 places I had to go back to to make sure I didn't miss any items that were game-changing.
- Many necessary items are easy to miss b/c the graphics are so poor- the creator should realize this and put them out in the middle of the screen. There was many times where I nearly missed something hidden behind a wall.
- Theres a point in the "Filth Factory" where it's very easy to miss a major plot mission that it's impossible to go back to
- Too many missions with no way to organize them. At time of writing I must honestly have 40 quests, some of which I will never complete because it turns out they lower my reputation stat... so i just reload prior to handing it in and now it's stuck there. Forever.
- Even more broken than the first game, its often not entirely clear when you've finished a quest and/or where you have to go to hand it in. There's over a 100 towns and by half way through i needed an online resource to find where on the map the city i had to go to was.
- I don't know what they did with Bows but they're incredibly overpowered. I often found myself killing enemies in 1 shot.
its really sad, this game really could have been something great but it feels like a first draft
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